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“Bob, you’re a girl. And a girl with as much talent for disguise as a giraffe in dark glasses trying to get into a polar bears-only golf club.” Some asshole didn’t do his job properly, some other assholes pride got in the Original grand Funk Rail Road 70s Rock Music T-Shirt and I will buy this way of communicating something, someone else tried to do their job properly and was dismissed, actions taken too little too late, rinse, repeat. Along with the SS Arctic sinking which also lost every single woman and child aboard while sinking these two shipwrecks popularized “Women and children first” for getting into lifeboats. Wiki article says one child, 12 year old John Hindley survived. Not that it makes anything about this better, but that was one lucky kid. yeah lots of people think “women and children first” is some millennia-old tradition of biological chivalry, rather than a recently-adopted imperative pushed bc panicked people are naturally selfish Most sinkings pre-20th century saw mostly men survive. The Royal Charter, SS Atlantic, SS La Bourgogne, to name a few. Often it was due to poor conditions meaning lifeboats could not be launched and only the strongest could survive. Although in the case of the SS La Bourgogne, it was down to a lack of discipline among the crew. The first sinking to prioritise women and children first was HMS Birkenhead. The ship sank carrying British soldiers and their families and they quickly realised that there wasn’t enough space on the lifeboats. The soldiers were ordered to form up on deck as the boats were lowered and rowed to shore. So as not to swamp the boats in panic, they stayed there until the deck slipped beneath the waves. They called it the Birkenhead drill. Women weren’t allowed to do a lot of stuff before. So some of them pretended to be dudes so they could do stuff. On a practical level I guess some of them just wanted more job opportunities.
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I was genuinely confused tbh lol. I was like…that feels like a tender comment. However, as I am neither a woman or trans, i couldnt decide how to take it XD Although, superstitions aside – they broke the Original grand Funk Rail Road 70s Rock Music T-Shirt and I will buy this friend barrier. No gender superstition, bigotry, hidden identity or ill will survives friendship. Yet, the quote doesn’t have the tiniest tinge of animosity. So…friendship defeats the above negatives yet again 😀 There was probably no negativity. It was a very bad thing to let women or children go down with the ship if men were also able to escape. He was probably saying it was a sorry affair, or that he felt some level of shame for the death of a woman. He may have even been saying he felt sorry for such a man to have been born a woman — but if there was malice in his words at all, they probably would have used some form of nasty slang (of which there was plenty, and of which there was little negative sentiment about its use). EDIT: Did I say that the “women and children first” was some maritime law? No, in fact! I know all about the Birkenhead thing. I also know that it was general public social outlook at the time. The sentiment of it being applied to boats in a recorded format occurred 20 years before OP’s quote. By 1870, boats began to carry more lifeboats for people, and this popularly spread. There was also a brief return to praising chivalry during the late 1800s & early 1900s, wherein women or children dying due to any issue (from car fires to bridge collapses) were mourned moreso than able-bodied men. These were wide, societal views not narrowly focused only onto boat wreckage. Women or girls going aboard for long hauls (en masse, such as commercially) was fairly new regardless — and within only a few decades of commercial liners existing, that “women and children first” sentimentality grew until the Titanic, when it became cemented into popular knowledge. Women especially have been viewed as special and worth saving over able-bodied men due to the fact that they can bear children, and that has held true for all of humankind — only very recently have we started to allow women to join armed services (again, en masse, not counting pockets of time when small numbers of women were used militarily for various circumstances), for instance. Don’t come at me with one reference and try to say all of human history and every book I’ve read written in that era of time is false because no one wrote that exact phrase down until a certain year. It doesn’t matter if it was always practiced or not and it doesn’t matter there wasn’t a law. A woman dying in lieu of an able-bodied man was always seen as a bad thing on land or sea by the general public. Where do you think the sentiment first came from anyway? It wasn’t all because one dude invented the concept. (Children were sometimes more forgotten, unfortunately, but it was still a sad thing.) I also never said it was something that would have massively changed mens’ instincts, but it would have affected their personal pride and possibly affect the opinions of the people they came home to.
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